A conversation held at Performing the World 2 in 2003.

Newman takes us through his paper A Therapeutic Deconstruction of the Illusion of Self, which was published in "Performing Psychology" (edited by Lois Holzman). (Routledge, 1999)

Fred Newman and Lenora Fulani talk with Robert Reich. An American political economist, professor, author, and political commentator. On a speaking tour for his 1998 book "Locked in the Cabinet." He served in the administrations of Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter and was Secretary of Labor under President Bill Clinton from 1993 to 1997. Reich is currently (2013) Chancellor's Professor of Public Policy at the Goldman School of Public Policy at the University of California, Berkeley. He was formerly a professor at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government [4] and professor of social and economic policy at the Heller School for Social Policy and Management of Brandeis University. He has also been a contributing editor of The New Republic, The American Prospect (also chairman and founding editor), Harvard Business Review, The Atlantic, The New York Times, and The Wall Street Journal.